From 62239b9acb7bb5b04c14f8ae71a028fe3c1a24a4 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: GNU Hurd wiki engine <web-hurd@gnu.org>
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:47:29 +0000
Subject: web commit by NealWalfield: Rework.

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 Hurd/HurdIRC.mdwn | 39 +++++++++++++++++++++++++--------------
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diff --git a/Hurd/HurdIRC.mdwn b/Hurd/HurdIRC.mdwn
index de7a38ec..8eeb54ca 100644
--- a/Hurd/HurdIRC.mdwn
+++ b/Hurd/HurdIRC.mdwn
@@ -1,23 +1,34 @@
-# <a name="Internet_Relay_Chat"> Internet Relay Chat </a>
+Some Hurd developpers and users frequent irc.  The main channel is
+the #hurd channel hosted on [Freenode.net](http://freenode.net/).
 
-The Hurd has its own #hurd channel hosted on [Freenode.net](http://freenode.net/). Connect to <irc://irc.freenode.net> and `/join #hurd` to begin.
+Localized channels include:
 
-**_Note:_** "Stupid" questions do not exist! We do sometimes forget that we have all learned how to use IRC. Please don't mind the louder voices on the channel if they seem a bit caustic.
+* #hurd-it - Italian discussion
+* #hurd-es - Spanish discussion
+* #hurdfr - French discussion
 
-## <a name="Channels"> Channels </a>
+# Asking Questions
 
-### <a name="hurd_main_channel"> #hurd - main channel </a>
+If you have a question regarding the Hurd or Debian, a good forum
+is often #hurd.  **However**, please follow these [guidelines](http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html)
+when asking your question.  Namely: spend some time that you tried
+to solve the problem on your, show us that you did so when you
+ask your question, and provide as many relevant details as possible
+reproducing them as exactly as possible.
 
-### <a name="hurd_it_Italian_discussion"> #hurd-it - Italian discussion </a>
+# Staying On-Topic
 
-### <a name="hurd_es_Spanish_discussion"> #hurd-es - Spanish discussion </a>
+Please try to stay on topic.
 
-### <a name="hurdfr_French_discussion"> #hurdfr - French discussion </a>
+* emacs vs. vi **is not** on topic.
+* If it is appropriate for a **slashdot comment**, it's not appropriate
+  here.
+* why GNU sucks
+* when the next release of the Hurd will be
 
-### <a name="_TODO_and_others_"> [TODO: and others] </a>
+# Pasting Logs
 
-## <a name="Logs"> Logs </a>
-
-The logs for a number of channels have been recorded by [hird](http://web.walfield.org/~deride/), but this service is out of order at the moment.
-
-Logs for #hurd are available [here](http://richtlijn.be/~larstiq/hurd/).
+Sometimes providing a log or some other excerpt of text can
+help solve a problem or answer a question.  **Do not** paste
+the log in the channel itself.  Instead use a
+[paste bin](http://paste.debian.net).
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