[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014 Free Software Foundation, Inc."]] [[!meta license="""[[!toggle id="license" text="GFDL 1.2+"]][[!toggleable id="license" text="Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license is included in the section entitled [[GNU Free Documentation License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] I'd be quite helpful to have nightly builds in form of Debian `.deb` packages. * <http://noone.org/talks/vcs-buildd/> (german) * Need to have an automation to get from Hurd upstream Git branches to a branch usable in Debian. IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-12-18: <teythoon> http://darnassus.sceen.net/~teythoon/hurd-ci/ has hurd and mig and gnumach packages built directly from the upstream git repository --- There is infrastructure available to test whole OS installations. * <http://www.os-autoinst.org/> --- [[Debian_Cross_Toolchain]] for cross-building? --- See also [[nightly_builds]]. # Debian Jenkins Instance ## IRC, OFTC, #debian-hurd, 2014-02-24 <pere> hi. can hurd be installed using d-i? If so, what about scripting the installation on <URL: http://jenkins.debian.net/view/g-i-installation/ >? <gnu_srs> pere: d-i works for Hurd, yes, with full graphical interface I dunno. Maybe you can ask about scripting in #hurd, more people are present there? <pere> gnu_srs: the scripts in questions are for jenkins. quite easy to write (d-i preseed scripts and qemu boot rules). ## IRC, OFTC, #debian-hurd, 2014-02-25 <pere> getting a automated test in jenkins running could show the status. what is needed to boot the hurd d-i image with a preseed file using qemu? <pere> git://git.debian.org/git/users/holger/jenkins.debian.net.git is the repo with the jenkins build rules. <pere> youpi: is it possible to start the hurd d-i installer with a preseed file from the qemu command line? --append need --kernel, which I suspect do not make sense with hurd? <pere> can the d-i hurd installer take a preseed file at all? my initial try failed. :( <teythoon> i don't know <teythoon> there has been talk here the other day about using qemus multiboot capabilities to directly boot the hurd [[hurd/running/qemu#multiboot]]. For d-i purposes, you'll additionally need: $ wget http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/hurd-i386/installer/cdimage/current/initrd.gz ..., and to the `--initrd` option prepend `'initrd.gz $(ramdisk-create)',` before the `ext2fs.static`, and refer the latter to `gunzip:device:rd0` instead of `device:hd0s1`. <pere> I tried adding an url= option to grub when booting the installer, but it seem to be ignored. <pere> perhaps the preseed udeb is missing, or the network support was enabled after preseed looked for the file? <teythoon> uh, i don't know about that stuff, youpi creates the d-i images <pere> ok. seem to me that the d-i images do not support preseeding at the moment. <teythoon> youpi: ^ did you succeed? if so, can you share how? <pere> teythoon: nope, I concluded it didn't work, and left it to other to fix. :) <youpi> pere, teythoon: IIRC preseeding can be put on the gnumach kernel command line <youpi> but I'm wondering why you can't simply modify the disk image into doing what you want <youpi> or you mean reinstalling the image each time? <pere> youpi: the point is testing the installer, and that can only be done by using the installer. :) <youpi> ok <pere> I would like to see something like <URL: http://jenkins.debian.net/view/g-i-installation/job/g-i-installation_debian_sid_daily_lxde/lastBuild/ > for hurd. ## IRC, OFTC, #debian-hurd, 2014-02-26 * gg0 setting up jenkins, almost time to give up <pere> gg0: why do you set up jenkins? <gg0> because i want to fail at doing all things, not just something ;) <gg0> oops seems my setup just sent emails to jenkins+debian-qa holger@layer-acht.org :/ <pere> #debian-qa will understand. :) ## IRC, OFTC, #debian-hurd, 2014-02-28 <pere> gg0: are you able to feed the installer one of the preseed files at <URL: http://jenkins.debian.net/d-i-preseed-cfgs/ >? <gg0> though jenking translates double quotes, need to escape the world <pere> debian_sid_daily_lxde_preseed.cfg seem like a good candiate. :) <gg0> pere: i'm working on that, stuck at working around that mandatory double quote <gg0> *initrd double quote <gg0> ok got a g-i-installation_debian_sid_daily_hurd_lxde able to boot <gg0> let's provide a preseed <gg0> shouldn't there be some info/debug consoles from tty 2 to 4? <youpi> there should be <gg0> maybe i can't send alt+NUM from vlc <youpi> ah, yes <youpi> you need to use the menu for that <youpi> press f8 <gg0> great <gg0> (found out C+A+{1,2,3} give interesting monitor,serial,parallel consoles btw) <gg0> not much options on menu <gg0> just clipboard management, quit, full screen, send ctrl-alt-del, send F8 * gg0 takes "great" back <gg0> i guess it depends on vnc implementation <gg0> don't ask me how i found out one can switch console with ... left/right arrow keys <youpi> without alt pressed? <gg0> without alt pressed <youpi> I've already seen that with qemu, when focusing into/out from the qemu window by using alt <youpi> somehow the alt state gets stuck <gg0> so you mean if i close viewer then reattach it, it doesn't happen anymore? let's see <gg0> you're right <gg0> though yes alt+left/right switches consoles <youpi> the last is expected :) <gg0> it says kbd-udeb doesn't exist so it falls back to hurd-debian-ports-udeb <youpi> that's not a problem <gg0> no partman-auto? <youpi> it should be working <gg0> i meant if it was installed but yes it gets it along with others ## IRC, OFTC, #debian-hurd, 2014-03-01 <gg0> partman-auto would need to be patched to be able to discover available disks <gg0> worked around by forcing /dev/hd1, jenkins creates disk with index=1 <gg0> stuck at installation-report installed. seems it can't manage to umount(then remount) /cdrom gracefully <gg0> or better it gets stuck at apt-cdrom ident <gg0> something like https://bugs.debian.org/598457 ## IRC, OFTC, #debian-hurd, 2014-03-02 <gg0> youpi: any chance to have monthly/weekly (daily would be too much i guess) isos/images? can i help somehow? <youpi> I am wondering why having that <youpi> since we have up-to-date mirrors <gg0> i'd say to install with latest installer/gnumach/hurd/eglibc <youpi> so that means also rebuilding the d-i image <gg0> and in general to not have to manually produce them <pere> youpi: the point is to automatically test the current images using jenkins.debian.net, I believe. for that to work, current images need to exist. :) <gg0> not only. i think saving youpi's time is also important <youpi> gg0: it doesn't really take me much time to generate images <youpi> it's about a few command lines to start, and then work on something else :) <gg0> well though it still requires manual intervention which is not scheduled and also error prone btw <youpi> gg0: I guess the most important help you could provide would be to actually track when the autobuild breaks :) <gg0> what pros keeping it manual? i don't think disk space saving <youpi> it's not really a question of manual, but the frequency <youpi> I prefer to test manually before uploading something on my somehow-official directory on people, anyway <youpi> but that doesn't mean we can't have weekly builds somewhere else indeed <youpi> it's just that for tests it's good to have several images backlog, but then it takes disk <gg0> well we could keeping "official" ones + say 6 monthly and say 4 weekly * gg0 randomizes retention <gg0> -ing <teythoon> gg0: check out my hurdtest program <teythoon> it updates qemu images automatically, and runs a test suite, creates snapshots <gg0> youpi: you'd just take actually care of official ones <teythoon> and it can zero-fill the disk images to compact them for publication <youpi> gg0: and have a cron for the others <youpi> on mirror.ftp-master <gg0> nice, we already have a disk image generator then <teythoon> i shall clean it up and merge stuff that i have changed locally <teythoon> i covered it in my early blog posts <teythoon> i use it extensively to test the packages from hurd-ci <gg0> great. so usually at this point /me can't do anything so good work! lol <youpi> crontabs are in place, scheduled on monday mornings <youpi> I have already completed a run, can be seen in weekly-0 <gg0> great! <gg0> assuming it will work forever without maintenance, how many minutes you'll save per month? :) <youpi> I don't think that'll save me time per month <youpi> since it's just an additional thing <gg0> youpi: so weekly-0 will always be the latest weekly (same about monthly) ? <youpi> yes <gg0> how about adding -YYYYMMDD after -1 CD/DVD/NETINST number? <youpi> that'd mean more scripting <gg0> just to distinguish them <youpi> we already have timestamps from the server <gg0> unfortunately i can't script myself, i can suggest though :) <gg0> or scripts are available somewhere? <gg0> so current/ should be a link to weekly-0? <youpi> on mirror.ftp-master.debian.org, but I guess you don't have access to it <youpi> no <youpi> definitely no <youpi> the point of current/ is to have something tested <gg0> ok <youpi> while weekly/monthly are most probably to get broken <youpi> so let's not point people at that <gg0> same story about diskimage? how do you generate them? <gg0> how about teythoon's way? <youpi> I do it by hand at the moment, but scripts would be welcome indeed <youpi> http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/hurd-i386/debian-hurd.img.txt <gg0> ok now stuck at grub install ## IRC, OFTC, #debian-hurd, 2014-03-03 <gg0> i probably should force /dev/hd0 as i did for /dev/hd0s1 as root device <gg0> if it's possible <youpi> what do you mean by forcing /dev/hd0s1 as root device ? <youpi> you shouldn't have to do that <youpi> my fear is that these additional images will mostly just bring additionnal reports <gg0> i had to specify it in preseed <youpi> which won't really decrease the amount of work <gg0> as partman-auto/disk <gg0> it can recognize available disks <gg0> that's also because it can't list root partitions on rescue mode <youpi> well, all I can say without having (again) to spend time on it, is that you're not supposed to have to do that <youpi> why are you using rescue mode? <youpi> if it can't list root partitions, then of course partman can't work <gg0> well, rescue mode should work <youpi> if you delve into non-tested parts of d-i, you'll surely encounter bugs <youpi> well, less "should" than plain "d-i" <youpi> in that I've never really tested it <youpi> so don't be surprised that some bugs remain <gg0> no problem <youpi> but again, we don't really need more bug reports <youpi> but rather bug fixing <youpi> we already have enough to fix, no need to delve into advanced things <gg0> sure, i'm just trying to make it work with all its limitations <gg0> it autopartition the disk well, it can't just make one choose among disks because it can't probe and list them <youpi> then fix the probe & list <gg0> i'd like doing it, i'm better at working around for now though :) <gg0> one blocker is mount/umount stuff [[glibc#mount]]. <youpi> well, you'll have to get into fixing bugs for real someday <youpi> otherwise this is just adding to TODO lists <youpi> what mount/umount stuff? <gg0> (took a quick look at partconf) <gg0> non-existent mount.h for instance <gg0> do we have replacements? <youpi> not that I know of <gg0> 21:53 < teythoon> gnu_srs1: i put a small hacks entry in the list about moving the mount/umount functionality from our utilities to the libc <youpi> ok <gg0> another thing i'd really like to see would be a physical shutdown, halt-hurd which actually poweroffs the system <gg0> how to switch to sysvinit by default? next sysvinit upload? <youpi> physical shutdown means implementing APM or ACPI <gg0> have to teach jenkins it can shut it down :/ <youpi> I'm extremely far from having the will for this <youpi> switching to sysvinit by default is a matter of saying that we want to do it <youpi> I already asked for this on the list without answer IIRC <gg0> i can't find anything <youpi> anyway, just propose on the list <gg0> d-i grub-installer/bootdev string /dev/hd0 - here it is <gg0> next run should not need any interaction, though it needs 20 mins to understand it has to destroy it and run won't be successful :/ <gg0> due to missing acpi/apm <gg0> first graphical automated install http://postimg.org/image/vgagj06q7/ <gg0> it seems 720x400 <gg0> though jenkins passes video=vesa:ywrap,mtrr vga=788 <gg0> by reconnecting it switched to 800x600 http://postimg.org/image/h32qjykrx/ <gg0> but seems stuck now and i can't even switch from graphical to consoles <gg0> unusually stuck at scanning cdrom <gg0> i'll check text install to see if it gets stuck there too <gg0> text install switches from 720x400 to 640x400 <gg0> i confirm it gets stuck on scanning cdrom, i guess because of this one https://bugs.debian.org/728153 which already broke load-install-cd i already had to workaround <pere> gg0: are you in contact with h01ger to update jenkins.debian.net with your cool installation code? <gg0> pere: still trying to have something working <gg0> plus with new weekly cd, apt-cdrom bug makes install getting stuck at first Scanning cdrom: <gg0> 03:44 < gg0> i confirm it gets stuck on scanning cdrom, i guess because of this one https://bugs.debian.org/728153 which already broke load-install-cd i already had to workaround <youpi> do we really need the CD-1 image in weekly builds? <gg0> just netinst? <youpi> yes <gg0> well, i don't know debian installer well. what's the difference between CD and NETINST besides that CD has more packages user doesn't need to download? <gg0> has CD anything not in NETINST which is worth to continously test? (talking about jenkins) <youpi> that's only it, yes <gg0> btw new ACPI on hurd consists of serial console to file + looping grep "In tight loop: hit ctl-alt-del to reboot" && kill qemu <gg0> anything better? <gg0> filed http://bugs.debian.org/740673 <gg0> without a patch just to express my great laziness :p <youpi> well, I'm afraid nobody in the debian-boot team will attempt anything at this <youpi> is it reproducible on linux? <gg0> nope <gg0> my guess is that's due to udev, need a deeper check btw <gg0> i mean non-udev cases like hurd maybe are not handled well <youpi> maybe try on kfreebsd then? <gg0> just guessing * gg0 trying on kfreebsd ## IRC, OFTC, #debian-hurd, 2014-03-04 <gg0> hurd install started getting stuck running os-prober, final grub install phase <gg0> youpi: yes i confirm it affects kfreebsd too <youpi> then please say so in the bug <youpi> otherwise most probably but me in the debian-boot team will care <youpi> +nobody <gg0> that might get more attention from d-boot team? <gg0> ok <youpi> also Cc debian-bsd@ <youpi> they will care <youpi> and tell about the hint as being the non-udev case <youpi> too much information or ideas is never a bad thing :) <gg0> done <gg0> (now i know notfound does remove found versions instead of adding notfound versions) <gg0> crazy things. to unblock os-prober i had to settrans -fg /target/media/./cdrom0 <gg0> it was mounting /dev/hd0s1 ... <gg0> i suspect apt-cdrom is to blame again <gg0> ok now jenkins just managed to start the installed system <gg0> and it's configured to make vncdo testing it <gg0> i'd need a graphical-working cd with old-apt to continue <gg0> let's try to install old apt on weekly-0 <gg0> "cdrom drive contains a cd which cannot be used for installation" <gg0> i think a sort of non-authenticated anymore <gg0> ehm.. http://paste.debian.net/plain/85224/ <pere> gg0: nice. :) <gg0> with apt 0.9.15.1 which should be good <gg0> pere: it did mount /dev/hd0s1 under /media/cdrom0 <gg0> 0.9.15.5, correctly i think, asks to insert it cdrom. but finally both mount /dev/hd0s1 instead of /dev/hd2 <gg0> -it <gg0> cause they both can't detect where cdrom is i guess ## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2014-03-04 <gg0> we could talk about apt-cdrom https://bugs.debian.org/740673 <gg0> how should system recognize cdrom device? <gg0> there's no /dev/cdrom link to actual cdrom device <gg0> /dev/cd[01] are scsi devices if i'm not wrong ## IRC, OFTC, #debian-hurd, 2014-03-05 <gg0> installer gets stuck running os-prober, seems because /target/proc/mounts gets unreadable, sometimes Resource lost sometimes it gets stuck reading it [[hurd/translator/mtab/discussion#chroot]]. <gg0> youpi: could you publish script to rebuild CDs you scheduled? with last official CD (20140212) mtab on /target dies and that seems getting os-prober stuck. last (and only) weekly has recent apt-cdrom so it gets stuck wrongly asking to change cdrom <youpi> see the readme file <youpi> err, you say it's the 0212 build which fails? <youpi> I had tested that before uploading <youpi> so the issue comes form the installed packages, not from the CD udebs <youpi> did you test with no network mirror? <gg0> no i didn't. should it find all packages it needs from cd? <youpi> sure, that's what netinst and dvd-1 are, as opposed to netboot <gg0> lxde desktop probably not <youpi> indeed <youpi> though with the dvd in principle it should <youpi> (if all deps were avaijlable at image build time) <youpi> gg0: btw if you haven't noticed, there's a daily too <gg0> youpi: till apt-cdrom is not fixed, they all will be broken, stuck at "Scanning cdrom" <youpi> gg0: did you try to bisect which git change produces the apt-cdrom bug? <gg0> youpi: all in bug in question <gg0> youpi: https://bugs.debian.org/740673 <youpi> is there the precise git commit id in the bug log? <gg0> http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=apt/apt.git;a=commitdiff;h=62dcbf84c4aee8cb01e40c594d4c7f3a23b64836 <youpi> well, don't tell that to just me, but the bug report... <gg0> bug report says "See <bug>" where bug is https://bugs.debian.org/728153 <youpi> gg0: bug report doesn't say it was *tested* that it is that changes which broke things <gg0> i don't think we could get it reverted just because it breaks hurd (+kfreebsd to check) debian installer <youpi> of course, but that's at least where developers can have a look at <gg0> well ok i could have been more clear <youpi> it's *WAY* better than having no idea where to have a look at <youpi> gg0: btw, that's why the README file advises not to use a network mirror, to avoid such kind of issues <youpi> you can't expect sid not to be not-broken :) <gg0> one gets Resource lost even when install is just started, no packages from any mirror <gg0> https://bugs.debian.org/740673#19 * gg0 installing without mirrors, without desktop, without lxde <gg0> same problem <gg0> so problem has nothing to do with installing from mirrors <youpi> what's odd is that I don't get this issue at all with the 20140212 upload at least <youpi> kvm -cdrom debian-7.0-hurd-i386-NETINST-1.iso -drive file=blip,cache=unsafe -m 1G <youpi> no more, no less <gg0> it must depend on preseed and/or kernel append options <youpi> possibly <gg0> oh wait here qemu multiboot <youpi> that shouldn't have any impact <gg0> 5€ on qemu multiboot as the culprit <gg0> you should also see it sometimes double-mounts /dev/hd0s1 under /target and /target/./media/cdrom(!) <gg0> but that's due to new apt it in-targets (= installs under /target) <gg0> any luck reproducing mtab issue? <youpi> still not [[hurd/translator/mtab/discussion#chroot]]. ## IRC, OFTC, #debian-hurd, 2014-03-06 <youpi> http://paste.debian.net/85535/ <youpi> no issue <youpi> (no network mirror) <gg0> full install till grub-installer? <youpi> yes <youpi> and reboot <gg0> -append 'auto=true mirror/suite=sid console=com0 priority=critical locale=en_US keymap=us url=http://10.0.2.1//d-i-preseed-cfgs/debian_sid_daily_hurd_lxde_preseed.cfg video=vesa:ywrap,mtrr vga=788 -- quiet' <gg0> i should provide preseed too <youpi> well, of course <youpi> always provide as much information as possible <youpi> so there's also your preseed file <gg0> not much different from http://jenkins.debian.net/d-i-preseed-cfgs/debian_sid_daily_lxde_preseed.cfg <gg0> but you need to force a couple of things + ugly workaround for broken apt-cdrom ident <youpi> well, I didn't even know that jenkins had that pressed file <youpi> well, here apt-cdrom is not needed <youpi> +hacks <youpi> since that's the old image we're checking <gg0> well ok, given you take everything from cd only, yes <gg0> here no mirror, no desktop, no lxde http://paste.debian.net/plain/85538/ <gg0> i'm trying this one too <gg0> main difference seems to be i usually use CD-1, not NETINST <gg0> had to add -net nic,vlan=0 -net user,vlan=0,host=10.0.2.1,dhcpstart=10.0.2.2,dns=10.0.2.254 <gg0> here target mtab is already crashed <gg0> because some package already tried to read /target/proc/mounts <gg0> youpi: reproduced there? <gg0> .o(well, maybe he's been sleeping for ~50 mins) <youpi> nope, I'm working on upgrading servers <youpi> I'm sorry, but your testcase is not really easy to reproduce :) <gg0> do you have apache on your host? just put preseed in the root, vm will take it <gg0> full command line is what you pasted + -net nic,vlan=0 -net user,vlan=0,host=10.0.2.1,dhcpstart=10.0.2.2,dns=10.0.2.254 <gg0> what else? when it starts debstrapping, open a console and check procfs and mtab processes <gg0> err, what you paster + -append i pasted + -net nic,vlan=0 -net user,vlan=0,host=10.0.2.1,dhcpstart=10.0.2.2,dns=10.0.2.254 <gg0> *pasted <gg0> which is http://paste.debian.net/plain/85554/ <gg0> surely keyboard layout doesn't help, here at least * gg0 tries to reproduce without preseed <gg0> i can't reproduce it <gg0> it doesn't crash * gg0 enabling all options but preseed <gg0> need to wait 31% of Installing base system to have the second procfs <gg0> ok got Resource lost even without preseed <gg0> youpi: you can reproduce it by adding -append console=com0 to what you pasted. that breaks grub-installer, it gets stuck at 66%, while runs os-prober <youpi> ah <gg0> how can that affect /target/proc/mounts? <youpi> no idea <gg0> couldn't daily be here? http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/ <youpi> if I knew how to push files there, sure <gg0> asking on #debian-boot would be a starting point i guess <youpi> probably <gg0> me asking on behalf of youpi would not a good one i think, given whatever will the answer i can't do anything <gg0> +be <youpi> you can still trasmit me <youpi> never understimate the little time you can save other people by doing some bits of work <gg0> well, i would not even have to repaste lines here given you joined there too <gg0> never understimate what "help with laziness" means :) <youpi> not necessarily repasting, but at least highlighting me <youpi> so I know where to read in the #d-b logs <gg0> there are no isos there, i'm missing something <youpi> there are no daily isos <youpi> only weekly isos <gg0> so seems i have to reask initial question with this url http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/ <gg0> oh wait they are from testing, that's why no hurd ones <gg0> i guess they could be here though http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/sid_d-i/current/ * gg0 asking on #debian-cd * gg0 would ignore non-DD gg0 asking whatever <youpi> people don't really ask themselves who is a DD and who is not <youpi> as long as you provide information in your question, it'll get answered <gg0> teythoon: interested in reproducing mtab-dying-under-chroot? <gg0> oh just realized it's not only under a chroot, chroot is on another disk. might that make the difference? <gg0> i didn't try to reproduce it by creating a chroot on a different disk, which is what installer does * gg0 wonders if it would have been better filing a bug against cdimage.debian.org <gg0> if no one fixes console=com0 thing, i have to think about a new acpi <gg0> ok managed to workaround apt bug in installer, i can graphically install last weekly <gg0> no console=com0 means no vm shutdown though <pere> gg0: wow. impressed! <gg0> patching CI to make CI workaround bugs CI spots is not so good <gg0> any idea about another shutdown trick without console=com0 till teythoon or youpi fix it? <pere> nope <gg0> current one: vm writes serial console to file and host loops grepping "In tight loop: hit ctl-alt-del to reboot" <gg0> -watchdog might be an alternative <gg0> if there are watchdog agents that can run on hurd <gg0> "watchdog" for instance doesn't build on hurd <pere> it need kernel support * gg0 testing -add-fd ## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2014-03-07 <gg0> teythoon: just mounted an additional fs, it's mounted but not present in proc/mounts <braunr> gg0: how did you mount it ? <gg0> i was under /root, sid-chroot is the mountpoint. i did mount /dev/hd3 sid-chroot (relative path) <braunr> does fsysopts confirm a new translator is running on sid-chroot ? <gg0> i shut down vm, working on another one by mounting the same disk which hosts a debchroot <gg0> i'm trying to reproduce the mtab-dying-on-chroot issue i get with debian installer <gg0> at the end, os-prober gets stuck by reading /target/proc/mounts (target is the installed system) <gg0> to be precise it gets stuck at second access. at first it gives Resource lost <gg0> didn't manage to reproduce so far <gg0> environment is pretty the same: booting with qemu multiboot http://darnassus.sceen.net/~hurd-web/hurd/running/qemu/#multiboot <gg0> so root on initrd + chroot on real disk <gg0> what's weird is that issue vanishes by removing console=com0 from -append options ### IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2014-03-08 <gg0> os-prober doesn't get stuck anymore and grub can install <gg0> my guess is that without console=com0 /target/proc/mounts is just accessed once ## IRC, OFTC, #debian-hurd, 2014-03-08 <gg0> youpi: from #debian-cd http://paste.debian.net/plainh/559f669b <gg0> any quick way to recreate initrd? <teythoon> gg0: i'm working on that <gg0> teythoon: that what? <teythoon> gg0: there is genext2fs, i have some patches that allows one to create nodes with passive translator records <gg0> recreating initrd? <teythoon> yes <teythoon> in the meantime, you can mount the existing initrd and modify it <gg0> well i'm following this one to rebuild whole cd then take an updated initrd to test with your repo <gg0> http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/hurd-i386/installer/README-d-i <gg0> probably too much work to get that <gg0> copying current /hurd to new initrd would be enough? <youpi> just copy the precise translator you need <youpi> also, no need to rebuild the whole cd just to replace the initrd <youpi> simply copy the content of an existing is <youpi> iso <youpi> replace the initrd.gz there <youpi> and then use grub-mkrescue to rebuild the ios <youpi> development would be horrible if you had to rebuild everything from zero everytime <youpi> first thing to do when developping is first take the time to find ways to work efficiently <youpi> unfortunately I had to apply some patches <youpi> first in d-i because isc-dhcp doens't work -> use the debian-ports version <youpi> then in d-i to automatically enable the debian-ports mirror <youpi> and last in the debian-cd to include debian-ports-archive-keyring <gg0> anything missing here? http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/hurd-i386/installer/README-d-i <gg0> mini.iso doesn't like any mirror <gg0> "mirror does not support the specified release" <gg0> something wrong/missing in my rebuilt <gg0> youpi: anything wrong in http://paste.debian.net/plain/86258 ? <gg0> i have/had problems with name resolution <youpi> gg0: the patch makes sense for -bsd too, Cc them too <gg0> i was wondering how many hunks in your patches are upstreamable <youpi> normally it's zero <gg0> http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/hurd-i386/installer/patch-debootstrap <gg0> why "release" instead on "main" by default? sid is never released <youpi> only because my mirror directory is hacked one <youpi> that merges debian.org, debian-ports.org, and my repo <youpi> and I don't rebuild Release files, just Packages files <gg0> i keep getting gpgv: BAD signature from "Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (7.0/Wheezy) <ftpmaster@debian.org> <gg0> just before creating debootstrap chroot <gg0> i applied hunk #2 only, installed modified debootstrap and put debs under localdebs/ <gg0> trying a different mirror <youpi> I don't know what issue you are encountering <youpi> but again, it's way simpler and faster to just patch existing images, rather than rebuilding them from zero <gg0> ok just read i'd need a local mirror to build isos <gg0> better using netinst and proxy cache ## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2014-03-09 <gg0> teythoon: shouldn't there be a patch which shows pid instead of task? <gg0> 20:43 < teythoon> task /hurd/procfs(19) <EF><BF><BD>O<EF><BF><BD> deallocating an invalid port 1049744, most probably a bug. <teythoon> there is <teythoon> i placed the functionality in proc first, but the wiki suggested to put it in the exec server instead <teythoon> i did that, it has the advantage, that the argv vector is easily accessible <teythoon> so i can also include the program name <teythoon> but there are two programs, that are not started using the exec server <teythoon> the root filesystem and the exec server itself <teythoon> so for these two processes, the approach does not work <gg0> i see. so here we got two which could come from ext2fs.static(initrd), exec(initrd) and ext2fs(chroot) http://postimg.org/image/e3qyafd0b/ right? <gg0> i also noticed that once mtab dies, by killing its procfs parent, they both restart, but /target/proc is not in /proc/mounts anymore <youpi> teythoon: for those we could use the first word of the module command line <gg0> restart doesn't means that by accessing /target/proc/mounts again it works btw, it'll give Resource lost again <teythoon> youpi: indeed <teythoon> gg0: no, the ext2fs for /target will be started by the exec server <gg0> ok two invalid ports one from ext2fs.static and one exec then <teythoon> gg0: what makes you attribute one to the exec server ? <teythoon> i'm pretty sure that there is a bug in libfshelp, it's easily triggered by killing an translator like procfs <teythoon> i must have introduced it with the translator list work i've done for the mtab translator <gg0> teythoon: a totally wrong task-is-a-process reasoning probably <gg0> just mounted another procfs which seems to work <gg0> http://postimg.org/image/q6w9xzo2j/ http://postimg.org/image/cr998jfkr/ <teythoon> gg0: the mtab translators in your screenshots are oldish, what's the point exactly ? <teythoon> gg0: also, all tasks are processes. task is a mach concept, whereas process is a posix concept implemented by hurds proc server. it creates a process object for every mach task. <gg0> my guess was that given we got two messages with different taskid: <gg0> 16:01 < gg0> ok two invalid ports one from ext2fs.static and one exec then <gg0> screenshot is this one http://postimg.org/image/e3qyafd0b/ <gg0> btw what do you mean by oldish. except first one 01:18 < gg0> http://postimg.org/image/oca8ormaj/ the only with current debian packages, remaining are done with your latest packages <gg0> in all cases i boot using qemu multiboot <gg0> root@hurd01:~# cat /proc/version <gg0> Linux version 2.6.1 (GNU 0.5 GNU-Mach 1.4-486-dbg/Hurd-0.5 i686-AT386) <gg0> it wouldn't be bad customizing version somehow, last commit id for instance <gg0> or build date <gg0> user01@jessie01 ~$ cat /proc/version <gg0> Linux version 3.11-2-686-pae (debian-kernel@lists.debian.org) (gcc version 4.8.2 (Debian 4.8.2-7) ) #1 SMP Debian 3.11.10-1 (2013-12-04) <gg0> user01@jessie01 ~$ uname -v <gg0> #1 SMP Debian 3.11.10-1 (2013-12-04) ## IRC, OFTC, #debian-hurd, 2014-03-10 <gg0> tschwinge: i just meant Debian Jenkins provides (hopefully for hurd too) continuos testing of debian installer, it doesn't produce .debs