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     <neal> how ipc works
     <neal> and understand exactly what state is stored where
     <zacts> ok
+
+
+# IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-10-12
+
+    <ahungry> Hi all, can anyone expand on
+      https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/contributing.html - if I proceed with
+      the quick start and have the system running in a virtual image, how do I
+      go from there to being able to start tweaking the source (and recompiling
+      ) in a meaningful way?
+    <ahungry> Would I modify the source, compile within the VM and then what
+      would be the next step to actually test my new changes?
+    <braunr> ahungry: we use debian
+    <braunr> i suggest formatting your changes into patches, importing them
+      into debian packages, rebuilding those packages, and installing them over
+      the upstream ones
+    <ahungry> what about modifications to mach itself?  or say I wanted to try
+      to work on the wifi drives - I would build the translator or module or
+      whatever and just add to the running instance of hurd?
+    <ahungry> s/drives/drivers
+    <braunr> same thing
+    <braunr> although
+    <braunr> during development, it's obviously a bit too expensive to rebuild
+      complete packages each time
+    <braunr> you can use the hurd on top of a gnumach kernel built completely
+      from upstream sources
+    <braunr> you need a few debian patches for the hurd itself
+    <braunr> a lot of them for glibc
+    <braunr> i usually create a temporary local branch with the debian patches
+      i need to make my code run
+    <braunr> and then create the true development branch itself from that one
+    <braunr> drivers are a a dark corner of the hurd
+    <braunr> i wouldn't recommend starting there
+    <braunr> but if you did, yes, you'd write a server to run drivers, and
+      start it
+    <braunr> you'd probably write a translator (which is a special kind of
+      server), yes
+    <ahungry> braunr: thanks for all the info, hittin the sack now but ill have
+      to set up a box and try to contribute