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A copy of the license -is included in the section entitled [[GNU Free Documentation -License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] - -[[!tag open_issue_gnumach open_issue_hurd open_issue_viengoos]] - -[[microkernel/Mach]] interfaces do not allow for proper resource accounting, -when a server allocates resources on behalf of a client. - -Mach can't do a good job at resource management, as it doesn't have enough -information how resources are used: which data is important and which is -discardable, for example. - -These issues are what Neal Walfield is working on with his new kernel -[[microkernel/viengoos]]. - - -# Kernel - -Inside the [[kernel]], there is commonly a need to allocate resources according -to externally induced demand, dynamically. For example, for memory-management -data structures (page tables), process table entries, thread control blocks, -[[capability]] tables, incoming network packages, blocks that are read in from -disk, the keyboard type-ahead buffer for a in-kernel keyboard driver. Some of -these are due to actions driven by user-space requests, others are due to -actions internal to the the kernel itself. Some of these buffers can be sized -statically (keyboard type-ahead buffer), and are thus unproblematic. Others -are not, and should thus be attributed to their user space entities. In the -latter (ideal) case, all resources -- that is, including those needed inside -the kernel -- that a user space task needs for execution are provided by itself -(and, in turn, provided by its parent / principal), and the kernel itself does -not need to allocate any resources dynamically out of an its own memory pool. -This avoids issues like [[microkernel/Mach]]'s [[zalloc_panics]] upon user -space processes allocating too many [[microkernel/mach/port]]s, for example. - -[[!toggleable id=fof_plos09 text="""[[!template id=note -text="*[[fof\_plos09|microkernel/barrelfish]]*: -{{$microkernel/barrelfish#fof_plos09}}"]]"""]] - -[[!toggleable id=sel4 text="""[[!template id=note -text="[[*sel4*|microkernel/l4]]: {{$microkernel/l4#sel4}}"]]"""]] - -In [[!toggle id=fof_plos09 text="[fof\_plos09]"]], the authors describe in -section 3 how they model their [[capability]] system according to [[!toggle -id=sel4 text="[sel4]"]] using a *retype* operation that *takes an existing -capability and produces one or more derived capabilities [...] used to create -new kernel-level memory objects (such as page tables or execution contexts) -from capabilities to raw regions of RAM*. - -This is, of course, non-trivial to implement, and also requires changing the -[[RPC]] interfaces, for example, but it is a valid approach, a research topic. - -([[!taglink open_issue_documentation]]: compare this to Linux [`vmsplice`'s -SPLICE_F_GIFT -flag](http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/online/pages/man2/vmsplice.2.html#DESCRIPTION).) - - -## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2011-07-31 - - < braunr> one of the biggest problems on the hurd is that, when a client - makes a call, kernel (and other) resources are allocated on behalf of the - server performaing the requested action - < braunr> performing* - < braunr> this makes implementing scheduling and limits difficult - < CTKArcher> And could changing the kernel change anything to that ? - < braunr> yes but you'd probably need to change its interface as well - < braunr> iirc, the critique describes resource containers - < braunr> but no work has been done on the current hurd (hence the hurdng - attempts) - - -## IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-08-13 - -In context of <https://teythoon.cryptobitch.de/posts/my-worst-week-yet/>. - - <braunr> teythoon: actually, thread migration isn't required for resource - accounting - -[[Mach_migrating_threads]]. - - <teythoon> braunr: but it solves it for free, doesn't it? - <braunr> teythoon: no - <braunr> it's really more complicated than that - - -# Further Examples - - * [[hurd/critique]] - - * [[IO_accounting]] - - * [[translators_set_up_by_untrusted_users]], and [[pagers]] - - * [[configure_max_command_line_length]] - - -## [[hurd/translator/exec]] server - -### IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2013-08-05 - - <teythoon> unzipping stuff in the exec server enables a dos on filesystem - translators - <teythoon> https://teythoon.cryptobitch.de/gsoc/heap/hello-1g.bz2 is - /hurd/hello padded with a gig of zeros, compressed with bzip2 - <teythoon> if set as an passive translator, it stalls other requests to the - filesystem, at least it does if ext2fs is used - <braunr> teythoon: ? - <braunr> teythoon: what's the dos here ? - <teythoon> I can prevent you from doing anything with the root filesystem - <teythoon> I'm kind of surprised myself, maybe a lock is held during the - exec of the translator? - <teythoon> the filesystem the hello-1g.bz2 translator is bound to is - affected - <braunr> teythoon: i don't understand - <braunr> have you tried starting something from another file system ? - <braunr> the lock may simply be in the exec server itself - <teythoon> no, starting other things works fine - <teythoon> but on the other hand, a find / is stalled - <braunr> :/ - <braunr> *sigh* - <teythoon> don't worry - <teythoon> there is a solution :p - <braunr> :) - <teythoon> and it only requires deleting code |