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diff --git a/open_issues/Upstart.mdwn b/open_issues/Upstart.mdwn
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+[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2013, 2014 Free Software Foundation, Inc."]]
+
+[[!meta license="""[[!toggle id="license" text="GFDL 1.2+"]][[!toggleable
+id="license" text="Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this
+document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or
+any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant
+Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts.  A copy of the license
+is included in the section entitled [[GNU Free Documentation
+License|/fdl]]."]]"""]]
+
+Upstart is an event based init system that is GPL licensed, however upstream
+contributions are under a CLA that permits proprietary relicensing.
+
+As of Jan 2 2013, Debian is considering adopting Upstart as an init system on
+GNU/Linux, and on GNU/kFreeBSD when the port to kFreeBSD is finished.
+
+The following are the words of Colin Watson on the debian-ctte@lists.debian.org
+mailing list and list the requirements of a potential HURD port:
+
+>I haven't looked at this in much detail, and I suspect Dimitri hasn't
+yet although IIRC he did express some interest in doing so.  But I
+haven't seen anyone else try to outline the scope of a port, so let me
+try to do so for the sake of general understanding.  As far as I know,
+the hardest parts would be inotify, ptrace, and prctl
+(PR_SET_CHILD_SUBREAPER).
+
+>inotify is used to notice changes to configuration files.  This is
+certainly helpful for users, but it isn't critical as "initctl
+reload-configuration" works without it.  We could probably do without
+this with the aid of a dpkg trigger.
+
+>ptrace is used for "expect fork" and "expect daemon"; as I indicated in
+another post, I think it would be preferable to avoid these in Debian
+and quite possibly to compile them out.  (This would mean we wouldn't be
+able to translate Ubuntu jobs quite as directly, and a number of
+important jobs would definitely need to be changed, but the conversion
+isn't usually particularly difficult.)
+
+>prctl (PR_SET_CHILD_SUBREAPER) is used to make SIGCHLD notification work
+properly when Upstart is supervising a user session.  This isn't a
+required feature and could easily be compiled out until suitable kernel
+support is available (this actually seems like the sort of thing that
+could be done in the Hurd without too much difficulty, but I haven't
+looked into it).  If absent, it might well impede the ability to do an
+advanced desktop port, but it wouldn't get in the way of porting the
+bulk of services.
+
+>There might also be odds and ends around the details of wait status
+handling.
+
+inotify seems to be a feature that is often used in GNU/Linux programs, and
+implementing the feature in the HURD seems like a better and more rewarding
+option than porting the code in Upstart.
+
+Although many daemons double fork, that behavior seems to be dying out, and
+one can comfortably ignore the "expect fork/daemon" functionality of Upstart
+(and compile it out).
+
+[[!tag open_issue_porting]]
+
+See also the discussion about upstart on the [[systemd]] page.
diff --git a/open_issues/hurd_file_name_lookup_retry_FS_RETRY_MAGIC.mdwn b/open_issues/hurd_file_name_lookup_retry_FS_RETRY_MAGIC.mdwn
index c38d029e..ba2f5865 100644
--- a/open_issues/hurd_file_name_lookup_retry_FS_RETRY_MAGIC.mdwn
+++ b/open_issues/hurd_file_name_lookup_retry_FS_RETRY_MAGIC.mdwn
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2009, 2010, 2013 Free Software Foundation,
+[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2009, 2010, 2013, 2014 Free Software Foundation,
 Inc."]]
 
 [[!meta license="""[[!toggle id="license" text="GFDL 1.2+"]][[!toggleable
@@ -9,13 +9,17 @@ Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts.  A copy of the license
 is included in the section entitled [[GNU Free Documentation
 License|/fdl]]."]]"""]]
 
+[[!meta title="hurd_file_name_lookup_retry: FS_RETRY_MAGICAL"]]
+
 [[!tag open_issue_glibc open_issue_hurd]]
 
 
 # IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2009-08-25
 
+[[hurd/interface/dir_lookup]].
+
     <cfhammar> also I fixed (what I think is) a bug in
-      hurd_file_name_lookup_retry when opening FDs with FS_RETRY_MAGIC
+      hurd_file_name_lookup_retry when opening FDs with FS_RETRY_MAGICAL
     <cfhammar> it didn't actually reopen the FD, rather it just (effectively)
       duped it
     <scolobb> cfhammar: That's great!  I think I had some problems because of
diff --git a/open_issues/pflocal_reauth.mdwn b/open_issues/pflocal_reauth.mdwn
index 839e383d..a575783e 100644
--- a/open_issues/pflocal_reauth.mdwn
+++ b/open_issues/pflocal_reauth.mdwn
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2011 Free Software Foundation, Inc."]]
+[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2011, 2014 Free Software Foundation, Inc."]]
 
 [[!meta license="""[[!toggle id="license" text="GFDL 1.2+"]][[!toggleable
 id="license" text="Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this
@@ -21,6 +21,9 @@ IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2011-04-02
     <youpi> to make glibc call reauthentication
     <pinotree> pflocal?
     <youpi> yes, in the dir_lookup handler
+
+[[hurd/interface/dir_lookup]].
+
     <pinotree> isn't that ext2fs?
     <youpi> libtrivfs had dir_lookup() too
     <youpi> trivfs_check_open_hook can be used to tweak its behavior
diff --git a/open_issues/systemd.mdwn b/open_issues/systemd.mdwn
index ca910491..d2506046 100644
--- a/open_issues/systemd.mdwn
+++ b/open_issues/systemd.mdwn
@@ -29,6 +29,10 @@ Likely there's also some other porting needed.
 
 # Discussion
 
+This also captures discussion about other init systems, not only systemd.  Also
+note the additional [[upstart]] page.
+
+
 ## IRC, OFTC, #debian-hurd, 2011-05-19
 
     <pinotree> pochu: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.desktop - the
diff --git a/open_issues/virtualization/remap_root_translator.mdwn b/open_issues/virtualization/remap_root_translator.mdwn
index acbb3147..757d15be 100644
--- a/open_issues/virtualization/remap_root_translator.mdwn
+++ b/open_issues/virtualization/remap_root_translator.mdwn
@@ -105,6 +105,9 @@ License|/fdl]]."]]"""]]
       "bin/bash"; in 
     <youpi> netfs_S_dir_lookup
     <youpi> and it just works
+
+[[hurd/interface/dir_lookup]].
+
     <youpi> ok, remap does indeed take my own pfinet
     <youpi> good :)
     <youpi> pfinet's tun seems to be working too