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+IRC, freenode, #hurd, 2011-10-12:
+
+    <pinotree> hm, why our sys/param.h #define's BSD?
+    <braunr> pinotree: because we're evil
+    <pinotree> is that correct?
+    <pinotree> (the define, not the evilness)
+    <braunr> pinotree: i think it's because the Hurd is closer to the BSD
+      interfaces, probably because of Mach (which is itself derived from
+      BSD4.2)
+    <pinotree> braunr: but mach being bsd-ish won't make the userland (glibc)
+      interfaces bsd-ish, will it?
+    <braunr> pinotree: no
+    <pinotree> braunr: so...? :)
+    <braunr> pinotree: i guesse there are bsdisms in the glibc hurd specific
+      code, possibly because of mach
+    <braunr> or they used to be bsdisms, before being standardized
+    <braunr> e.g. mmap
+    <pinotree> braunr: hrmm...
+    <antrik> braunr: the BSDisms are there on purpose... Hurd was originally
+      even meant to be binary-compatible with BSD
+    <antrik> nothing to do with Mach really
+    <braunr> antrik: ok